Forum Discussion with Aldila on VooDoo Shafts
March 19th, 2009
This Fitters’ Forum showcases the Aldila VooDoo shaft and the proprietary Aldila VooDoo for Titleist offered as stock and custom options in 909 metals. We feature information from Aldila Vice-President of Engineering John Oldenburg as well as Acushnet Manager of Golf Shaft Development Don Bone.
VooDoo for Titleist v. Aldila VooDoo VS6 & VS7
“After extensive player testing of numerous potential VooDoo designs from Aldila, Titleist settled on the version that worked best in the new 909 drivers,” notes Oldenburg. “The specs for the Titleist VooDoo fall roughly between the Aldila VooDoo VS6 and VS7 with its weight closer to VS7 and bending and torsional stiffness closer to VS6. So in an apples-to-apples comparison, Titleist VooDoo should play like a blend of the aftermarket VooDoo VS6 and VS7.”
“Titleist VooDoo is produced on the exact same tooling, using the exact same materials, and has the exact same S-Core technology stabilization rib as the aftermarket shafts and tour shafts.”
| Titleist VooDoo | Aldila VooDoo VS6 | Aldila VooDoo VS7 | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Weight | 72 grams | 66 grams | 75 grams |
| Torque | 3.3° | 3.5° | 3.2° |
| Flex Point | mid-high | mid-high | mid-high |
Selecting a VooDoo for 909 metals
“Because of the stability promise of S-Core technology, we had Aldila make many variations of VooDoo designs and we did extensive player testing on them at our Oceanside Test Facility,” Bone begins. “The version we selected worked best for a broad range of swing speeds in the 909 drivers, which was not the case with the tour-focused, aftermarket VooDoo VS6 and VS7. With the Titleist VooDoo, more people can benefit from the very stable feel of S-Core technology and still have a playable shaft. If someone does need a shaft that’s a bit more aggressive, then the 1″ tip trim we offer custom order brings the Titleist VooDoo closer to its aftermarket, parent VooDoo shafts with their lower spin and lower ball flight characteristics.”
About S-Core Technology
All VooDoo shafts are specially designed with S-Core Technology, a patented, one-piece carbon fiber rib system that dramatically stabilizes the shaft’s cross-section for increased accuracy and distance. Its hoop design allows the shaft to stay round and more concentric during the swing, preventing shaft ovaling, deformation and wasted energy. This innovative rib structure increases hoop strength/stiffness by over 80 percent compared to conventional graphite shafts. This design not only helps to keep the shaft’s structure stable, but also assists in transferring the maximum energy a golfer can deliver to the ball, generating consistently straighter and longer shots.
All VooDoo shafts feature Aldila’s patented S-Core Technology for
increased stability, accuracy and distance.
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Absolutely a great club-909D2 9.5 / voodoo stiff flex. Difference was night and day with my previous driver with TP Rombax 65. Gained 10-15 yards longer, and im now reaching 310-315 yards off the tee. Thank you Titleist/Aldila! Awesome product!
Have the recently-released UST Mamiya ATTAS shafts been tested for the 909 Series woods? Is there any chance of seeing these included in the custom matrix soon? And if so, when?
Matt-
The UST Mamiya ATTAS shafts have been tested and approved for use in Titleist drivers. There are no current plans, though, to include the shaft in our custom matrix. Thanks for the question.
Get fitted. Relax. Practice your putting. Peace
I switched from the 907 to the 909D2 driver fitted with the Voodoo Stiff flex 9.5. Eversince the switch and as the driver has given me confident, I’ve also bought the 909 series of Fairway wood and Hybrid. My average yardage is 250yds. I’m toying with the idea of switching the shaft to a Reg flex. Will such switch gain more yardages?Tks n Cheers
Bill-
You really should work with a Titleist clubfitter on a launch monitor to determine the appropriate shaft and specs for your Titleist 909 driver. Let us know if you need assistance locating one near you. Good luck.
Where do the Fujikura Motore F1 series of shafts fit in the launch and spin chart. Thanks
Scott-
Based on our testing, the Fujikura Motore F1 series shafts fit into the chart as follows:
55: Low-mid launch and spin
65: Low launch and spin
75: Mid launch and spin
I had a 905R 9.5 with a NV 65 stiff, that I should never have sold. I am currently hitting another driver brand with a Blue Board 73 stiff flex, that I hate. My bad, too much shaft for me. I see that you offer the Rombax 7z08 and the 6×07. I understand the shaft chart, but which flexes are for which shafts? My swing speed is around 102 mph and would likely go with a stiff flex. How do these 2 shaft compare with one another on the course, and are they both stiff, regular, or xtra stiff flex? Based on my current trajectory I would tend to pick the 6×07 as I have a low launch angle.
Brian-
Both of those shafts are available in Regular, Stiff, and Extra Stiff flexes. The 6X07 should launch higher and with slightly more spin than the 7Z08.
I have a swing speed of 85-90, I want to buy the 909D2, what shaft do you recommend? I generally hit the ball high with a slight fade.
Rick-
You’re going to want to work with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to help you determine the appropriate shaft for your 909D2.
I have a bag stocked with all Titleist clubs. They’re oldies but goodies. The 905T driver and 904F fairway wood with Grafalloy ProLaunch Red stiff shafts in them. I was thinking about experimenting with a shorter shaft in both woods. Can you produce a list of shafts that perform well with a shorter length?
Alberto-
Shortening a shaft slightly shouldn’t drastically affect its playability (i.e., a shaft that performs well at standard length is likely to perform just as well at a slightly shorter length). Keep in mind that the club will play at a lighter swingweight with a shorter shaft.
Congratulations on the new 909 range – brilliant clubs. I have just had a custom fit session and ordered a new 909D2, 909F2, 909H hybrid. My swing speed is consistently around 100 – 103. Having previously been a competitive product user, I would normally always go Stiff shaft but in yesterday’s fitting it was recommended I go for Std Titleist VooDoo Regular shaft. My understanding being that the tip of the shaft is a bit stiffer. I’m looking for a bit of comfort that I’ve made the right decision on shaft – the stats on launch angle, spin rate, dispersion all seemed to be good.
David-
Thanks for the compliments on the new line. As we responded to Michael a few comments down, it is tough for us to comment on your fitting since we were not there. We can say that launch monitors are impartial, and that we trust our Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partners as they have been trained directly by us. Best wishes with the new clubs…be sure to let us and your fitter know how they work out for you.
I have an 8.5 degree 983K with a Titleist 4560 regular shaft. I want to move up three years in technology but NOTHING hits the ball as far, as straight. Most new regular shafted clubs are 10.5 degree and have low to mid kick points. What is a comparable new club. Would it be a 8.5 degree 909D2 with a VooDoo VS6 shaft ?
Allen-
Sounds as if you have been hitting demo clubs off the rack at your local golf shop. Have you consulted with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner yet? The SureFit Cart at a FittingWorks location will allow you to try a number of different head/shaft options in order to optimize your launch conditions.
I used 909D2 demo drivers with Aldila DVS 60 S, Diamana Blue 65 S and Aldila VS Proto 65 D shafts several times and did not detect much difference in the shafts.
I decided to get a scope fitting to purchase a new driver and the club fitter thought an Aldila VooDoo shaft would likely be a better choice but after a one hour session on the scope he recommended I go with a Matrix Ozik X-Con 6 for Titlest shaft.
Should I trust his judgment based on the time I spent on the scope?
On the Titlest website I read that the Matrix Ozik shafts are stock on the DComp club but the Diamana Blue and Aldila VooDoo are stock on the D2.
Comments please.
Michael-
Not having been involved with your fitting, it wouldn’t be appropriate for us to comment on the fitter’s recommendation. Launch monitor fittings, though, tend to be very objective since you get to compare a number of different club configurations in terms of launch characteristics.
As far as the Ozik for Titleist shafts, although they are not stock on the 909D2 or 909D3, they can be ordered for those models through Titleist Custom Clubs at no upcharge.
I have a 909D3 with the stock VooDoo stiff shaft. Was having trouble heeling shots with poor trajectory. Last week, Titleist rep fit me and suggested going to 43.5″ length.
What is the best way to trim the VooDoo shaft? Butt or tip? Don’t want to go too much more in stiffness. Any way to counteract weight loss with trimming?
Thanks in advance
Michael-
You should contact the Titleist Repairs Department at 1-800-742-7609 to discuss getting your driver shaft trimmed to the proper length.
Hi, I want to get an upgraded Titleist driver from my Titleist 905S with an Aldila NV6 stiff shaft in it. I want to get a Titleist 909D2 but am conflicted on which shaft to get with it. What shaft would be most comparable to the Aldila NV6? Thanks.
Kyle-
You’d greatly benefit from being fit by an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner for your new 909D2. For more information on the shaft choices available for custom order, please see the shaft listings page on FittingWorks.com.
I just demoed a 909D3 w/ Titleist VooDoo shaft, hit everything straight and long. perfect combo.
My question is, are the Titleist VooDoo shafts available to put in a 905R (which I currently play.) ? or would I have to go with the VooDoo VS7? And would either combination play similarly to the demoed combo?
Thanks for the help.
Fernie-
Sounds like you should just upgrade to the 909D3 if it’s the perfect combo! The VooDoo for Titleist is made for the blind-bore 909 series drivers and would likely not produce the same results for you in your bore-thru 905R.
I am Using a 909D2 Driver wtih Stiff Titleist VooDoo Shaft,fitted at Titleist Demo day.
Shaft does everything it advertises, delighted with the results, lower driver spin and ball flight.
Question, I noticed the Graphics on the Driver shaft are positioned facing away from the golfer?, Are these shafts “Pured” ? or is there a reason for this,?
Some of us would rather see the Graphics on Set up?….
Might remind us what a good shaft we are using?
Comments…Thanks..Stuart
Stuart-
The reason the shaft graphics (as well as the graphics on the stock Titleist Tour Velvet grip) are positioned on the underside of the club in the address position is that the vast majority of players prefer to concentrate on the ball at address and find the graphics distracting. If you prefer to have the graphics facing you, the club can certainly be assembled to your taste without affecting its performance.
I have been playing the Speeder for Titleist S shaft for 3 drivers now and have always hit it well. Is the new VooDoo for Titleist a similar shaft?
Mark-
The Speeder for Titleist is a slightly heavier and lower torque shaft than the VooDoo for Titleist.
What is the difference in performance between the Aldila VS Proto 70 in stiff flex and the VooDoo for Titleist in stiff flex. I can see that the specs on the Titleist site for both shafts look very similar. I am considering buying a 909D2 and have tested the VooDoo for Titleist but not the VS Proto 70. I have tried the VS Proto 65 in a 907D2 and liked the flight. Will the VS Proto 70 produce a lower more penetrating flight and play slightly stiffer than the VooDoo for Titleist?
Jon-
We recommend that you contact Aldila to determine the performance differences between their VS Proto 70 and VooDoo for Titleist shafts. Keep in mind that individual results may vary from person to person based upon swing styles and load patterns.
What driver shafts are available on the SureFit cart. I haven’t been to a fitter yet but I would imagine they can’t carry more than 10 of the custom shafts available.
Rob-
The shafts available in the SureFit cart can be viewed on the Fitting Clubs page on FittingWorks.com. You’ll notice that our Advanced FittingWorks Centers have a larger selection of shafts in their carts than the FittingWorks Centers, but all locations have a good selection of shafts with which to test.
“The specs for the Titleist VooDoo fall roughly between the Aldila VooDoo VS6 and VS7 with its weight closer to VS7 and bending and torsional stiffness closer to VS6. So in an apples-to-apples comparison, Titleist VooDoo should play like a blend of the aftermarket VooDoo VS6 and VS7.”
On the “909 Shaft Chart” both the VS6 and VS7 launch lower than the Titleist VooDoo…not right in between as the above statement would suggest. Can you explain this difference and what could account for it?
Steve-
The shaft chart is designed to show the relative difference of shafts, which is a compilation of many factors. Since there are many shafts clustered in the areas of low/mid launch and low/mid spin, the relative differences between them is small.
The adjacent placement of the Titleist VooDoo and the VooDoo VS6 in the shaft summary is linked to their similar tip stiffness, which is softer than the VooDoo VS7. With regard to torsional stiffness, the Titleist VooDoo is between the VS6 and VS7, but closer to the VS7. The mass of the Titleist VooDoo is between the VS6 and VS7, but closer to the VS7.
As with all shafts, it is best to look at individual results as they can vary from person to person based upon varying swing styles and load patterns.
I recently purchased a 909D3 10.5° driver from a silent auction. It was a tour player’s club. It has a VooDoo XNV6 shaft. I currently hit the 905T 10.5° with a stiff shaft. I hit the T a little too high. I do not know too much about launch angles and stuff like that but I do know that this is a good shaft. I am a 10 handicap and hit the ball 280 plus. Do you think that this is too much of a club for me, and can you tell me a little about the shaft?
Ray-
We recommend that you contact Aldila for information about the VooDoo XNV6 shaft, as it is currently a Tour-only model.
I have a Titleist 10.5 degree 909D2 and am happy with it. It has a reg VooDoo shaft. My ball speed is 133, spin 2,700 and launch is 14.5 degrees – is there a D3 that might be better than the D2?
Philip-
You’re very close to being optimized in terms of launch conditions for your ball speed with your current driver/shaft combination. You may be able to gain a few extra yards by reducing your spin rate. We recommend working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner using a SureFit driver fitting system and a launch monitor to determine if there is a head/shaft combination that works better for you than your current 909D2.
Hello, what’s the tip diameter of the Titliest 909D2? Thanks.
Tip diameter is .335″ parallel.
I have been playing an 8.5° 907D2 with a Proforce UST 75G Stiff and have had great results with this combo. Looking into the 909D3. I would like to try it in 8.5° with a Proforce UST 65G X-Stiff. I know every golfer is different in regards to launch angles and spin rates, but I was curious if just speaking in general terms if the above combo would perhaps lower launch angle and spin rate too much. I don’t have access to an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner. Thank you.
Marc-
Generally speaking, the 909D3 at 8.5° will launch and spin lower than the 907D2 at 8.5°. A lighter weight shaft will spin more and have a negligible effect on launch angle. A stiffer flex shaft will spin less and have a negligible effect on launch angle. It is difficult to determine the overall effect on launch and spin when making all of these changes at once without actually working with a fitter on a launch monitor. If you are concerned with that combination launching and spinning too low, you may want to consider the 909D2 at 8.5° or the 909D3 at 9.5°.
Hi, I presently play a 905R 7.5° with a Proforce V2 76 gram X flex shaft. My specs: 108 mph club head speed, 14.1° launch, 2,178 rpm spin rate, 173 mph ball speed. I LOVE this club but am considering moving up to the 909 series. My question is 909D2 or 909D3? I know there is no 7.5° loft available so I am not sure whether to go with the 909D3 to make up for the difference in loft (7.5° vs. 8.5°) or the 909D2 for the more similar launch conditions and head size. Please comment. Hdcp. 1. Jeff J.
Jeff-
We suggest working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner with the SureFit Driver Fitting System and a launch monitor to help you determine the appropriate model and specs for your new 909 driver. If you are unable to visit a FittingWorks partner, then we recommend contacting Titleist Custom Clubs customer service at 1-800-833-3450 to speak to one of our knowledgeable representatives about your options.
I currently use a 905S with a Grafalloy ProLaunch Red shaft, 65 grams. I like the club, but am interested in 909D3 thinking it will be a little more forgiving than the 905S. The question is which VooDoo shaft is most comparable to the Grafalloy ProLaunch Red?
We still offer the Grafalloy ProLaunch Red shaft as part of our custom shaft matrix, so you might want to start there when looking at the new 909D3.
I am unable to get to an authorized FittingWorks partner, so with that being said I am trying to decide quickly (my old driver broke) and get a new driver in by this weekend. I want to go with a stock shaft to avoid extra charges. I currently have the 983K driver with a stiff Grafalloy shaft. SS is around 107-110. What is your best guess as to which shaft and stiffness I should go with?
THANKS
If you are unable to visit a FittingWorks partner, then we recommend contacting Titleist Custom Clubs customer service at 1-800-833-3450 to speak to one of our knowledgeable representatives about your options.
What are the exact specs of the Titleist VooDoo for the 909D3?
At the standard finished length of 45″, the shaft weighs 72 grams with torque of 3.3° for a target swingweight of D2.
Do you sacrifice any distance when going to a higher kickpoint shaft?
The answer to your question is player dependent…some golfers need a shaft with a higher flex point to optimize their launch conditions while others need a shaft with a mid to low flex point. We recommend consulting with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to determine which is correct for your swing.
I am looking to buy the 909D2 & 909F2. Could you tell me when the Mitsubishi Fubuki is going to be added to the custom matrix? Thanks.
Richard-
Mitsubishi Fubuki has been approved for custom orders and we are in the process of updating our shaft listings on the site. You can place your custom order with any Authorized Titleist Golf Shop.
I am thinking about buying a 909D3 at 9.5° loft with a Blue Board shaft. I know that the softer tip on the Blue Board will make the 9.5° a little bit higher for a higher ball flight which would be what I desire. I am junior golfer, though, so I have to cut it down. Will this make the ball flight higher or lower than the standard length?
Thanks
Cole
We suggest that you see an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to determine the best length for your driver. We typically select length to produce the most centered impact on the clubface, consistent ball flight, and directional control. Your height, arm length, posture, and swing characteristics will affect the length selected. While most players impart less spin with a shorter club, it is very player-dependent and something to measure when you are fitted.
If you determine that a less than standard length is appropriate, it will reduce the swingweight of the club. We select a heavier weight head to offset some of the swingweight change caused by length when we build your custom driver. Our experience has been that club length is a much for important performance variable than swingweight.
I own a 975D which I received in April of 2000. It has a True Temper EI-70 stiff shaft. Best club I have ever hit. Last year I thought I would give one of the bigger heads a try. Bought a 905T with a Graphite Design YS-6 in it. Good looking club but I hit the ball so high that I quit using it. Is that shaft really soft in the tip? I sold it to a friend of mine and have been trying to find a 905S. Most of these have the Speeder in them. Also looking at a 905R right now with the NV-65 Aldila. How do those shafts compare? Thanks for your answers. Don
Thanks for the note Don. Be sure to check out our custom shaft listings on FittingWorks.com to compare the various shafts offered with Titleist drivers. The GDI YS-6 does have a softer tip section than the Aldila NV-65 and Speeder for Titleist shafts. We always recommend working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to help you determine the proper shaft and specs for your new Titleist equipment.
I want to make sure I have read the specs on the heads correctly. The 905T and 905R are similar. Is that correct? Both promote a higher launch angle than the 905S? I found a good deal on the 905R but when I checked the specs on the head, I hesitated. If the head design lends to higher launch, if I used a Graphite Design YS-7 or a Proforce V2 75g shaft would that help neutralize the higher launch angle? I prefer a more boring trajectory. Thanks for your help.
Both the 905T and 905R will promote a higher ball flight than the 905S. The 905T is a 400cc head, while the 905R is a 460cc head. The increased head size of the 905R allows for the CG location to move deeper and farther aft in the clubhead, thereby promoting a higher launch angle than the 905T. All other things being equal, shaft weight will have a negligible effect on launch angle. For more on Titleist’s driver fitting methodology, please visit FittingWorks.com.
I have just purchased my first Titleist driver, a 909D3 8.5°. I got what I was looking for: a lower ball flight, reduced spin and a little roll. I was excited to learn that Titleist has a fitting cart with interchangeable shafts. I was, however, disappointed at the selection of shafts on the cart. Titleist has come a long way on their driver fitting options, now it is time to make a bigger commitment to fitting by offering a wider selection of shafts. I was looking forward to trying a 909D3 with a Whiteboard and Blueboard to see what was my best fit. Now I have to take a gamble with a $300+ shaft. Please, please, please offer more driver shafts on your Sure-Fit carts.
I bought a Titleist 907D2 driver last summer…the shaft recently broke. Is Titleist my only source to fix this driver due to model and manufacturing or can any pro shop fix it?
Most golf shops that offer club repair services should be able to help you out. Depending on the circumstances surrounding the shaft breaking, your driver may be covered by warranty. We recommend contacting the Titleist Warranty and Repair Department at 1-800-742-7609 to discuss your situation.
I am looking to buy a 909D3 because I have a high ball flight. I demo’d the club with a stiff shaft and found it was to whippy for me. I used to play a 905R with a Grafalloy Blue Stiff shaft in it. What do you suggest I do? Do I get an X-stiff shaft in a VooDoo or a different shaft? What do you suggest I do. Thank you. 4 handicap
My coach gave me the Aldila VooDoo VS7 and my swing speed is about 100-105mph and it works really well for me.
We suggest working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner with the SureFit Driver Fitting System and a launch monitor to help you determine the appropriate specs for your new 909 driver.
I am looking to get the 909D3 but I am unsure about shaft options. I play a Graphite Design YS-6+ in my current 905 and like it the majority of the time. I play a Grafalloy Blue in my 3 wood and absolutely love it. I know the Blue is an older shaft, but is it available as a custom option for the 909? If not, what shafts are similar? I play a 9.5 degree 905 s-flex YS-6+ and I love the flight, it is just the whip through that sometimes causes my draw to snap. 1 handicap. Thanks.
Scott,
Aldila’s NV 65 shaft has been a winner for me. Good combination of feel, flex, power transfer and weight. I’ve been using it for the last 2 years and love it.
My buddy used the NV Proto for a bit. I hit that a few times, but didn’t like it as much. 0.0 handicap.
All of the stock and custom shafts available with 909 drivers can be viewed on our shaft listing page on FittingWorks.com. Grafalloy Blue is no longer offered, but the Grafalloy ProLaunch Red shares similar characteristics. We recommend working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to get fit for your new Titleist driver.
I’m currently playing the 907D2 with VS Proto X-Stiff shaft but I’m looking to swap up to the 909D3. My question is do you guys offer the new Pro Launch Red “AXIS” shaft yet and if not will it be an option soon?
The Grafalloy ProLaunch Axis Red is not currently in our custom shaft matrix. We are constantly evaluating the latest shaft offerings for potential inclusion, though, so be sure to check the listings periodically or call Titleist Custom Golf Clubs customer service at 1-800-833-3450to determine availability of your preferred shaft.
I am currently playing a 905R 8.5 degree with x-flex Titleist Speeder shaft. My current driver has the feel I like but I am wanting to upgrade to the 909 series. I hit my current driver well but would like to hit it just a bit higher, do you have any suggestions as to which 909 head and shaft combination would match the feel I have with my current driver…I can’t seem to find any Titleist fitters where I live that have a launch monitor to check spin rates and launch angles. Thanks.
If you like your current driver shaft, the Speeder for Titleist is still offered as a custom option for 909 series drivers. To increase your launch angle, you may want to look at more loft and/or the 909DComp or 909D2 drivers. For help with the driver selection process, please see our new 909 Driver Selection Guide.
Besides the Aldila VooDoo, have any of the new shaft options released to retail this year and already offered by other OEMs (i.e. Fujikura Motore, Mitsubishi Fubuki) been tested for the 909 heads? Any chance of seeing these shafts in the custom matrix sometime in the near future?
Both shafts mentioned have been tested and are in the process of being added to our custom matrix.
Thanks for the quick reply. I have also noticed that many of your tour pros use a Fujikura ZCOM Pro95 shaft in their fairway metals. It is listed as a custom option for the 909 Series but for some reason there is no mention of it in the available offerings on this site. What are the specs on this shaft? Thanks.
The Fujikura ZCOM Pro95 was part of the custom matrix for Titleist drivers and fairways, but Fujikura has stopped producing this model so we have removed it. It is a heavy weight shaft with a high flex point that performs well for aggressive, hard hitting players with higher ball speeds. Weight: 89-95 grams (flex dependent), Torque: 3.0 deg; Flex Point: High; Trajectory: Low.
I’m looking at getting a 909D2, currently have a 905R with UST 65-R in it. Will it play the same as the 905R or will it be softer? Will it be different because of the blind bore vs full bore-through. Thank you. Pat
There are likely to be feel and performance differences between the 905R with its thru-bore hosel and the 909D2 with its blind bore hosel. We recommend working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to help you get optimally fit for your 909D2.
I currently use a Titleist 3 and 5 fairway wood with Titleist Speeder shaft. I’m looking at getting a hybrid to replace my 3 or 4 iron. 2 questions: 1. which of the stock shafts on the 909H would be closest to the Titleist Speeder? and 2. what degree hybrid would typically replace a 3 or 4 iron? Thanks!
Of the two stock hybrid shafts, the Titleist VooDoo Hybrid will likely perform most similarly to your Titleist Speeder Fairway shafts. We do offer the Fujikura Speeder 904HB as a custom hybrid shaft option as well.
Most Titleist 3- and 4-irons are 21° and 24°, respectively. Those hybrid lofts would be a good place to start when gap fitting for long iron replacements.
And, as always, we recommend consulting with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to get fit for your new Titleist golf clubs.
I am currently playing a Titleist 905T 10.5 with a YS-6 regular shaft. My question is which shaft would best resemble this configuration to start with in the new 909D3? How does the VooDoo compare to the YS-6?
Graphite Design YS-6+ is still offered as a custom shaft option for Titleist 909 drivers. In terms of the stock shafts, Titleist Diamana Blue 65 should perform similarly to the YS-6+. The stock Titleist VooDoo is heavier and promotes slightly lower launch and spin compared to YS-6+. As always, we recommend consulting with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to get fit into your new Titleist golf clubs.
How does the Titleist VooDoo extra stiff shaft differ from a Grafalloy ProLauch Red extra stiff shaft?
Please see the specs for the two shafts on our shaft listing page on FittingWorks.com.
I was fit by a Titleist fitting partner at my club. The best fit for me was the 909D2 with a Mitsubishi JAVLNFX M7 shaft. I’ve ordered that. For consistency, the pro recommended the same shaft in the fairway wood, so we also ordered the 909F2 with the same shaft. I’d like a 909 hybrid with the same characteristics. Is there some reason you don’t offer the JAVLNFX Mh7 hybrid shaft made by Mitsubishi? Do you plan to in the future, or can it be custom ordered or aftermarket installed? Absent that, do you have a recommendation as to which of your hybrid shaft options most closely matches? Thanks in advance.
We’re constantly evaluating new shafts for inclusion on our custom shaft listings. The Titleist 909H hybrids are constructed to pair with .355″ tapered tip iron shafts, which is why the JAVLNFX Mh7 is not a custom option. Our recommendation would be to consult with your fitter to find a hybrid shaft that matches weel with the performance of your iron shafts.
I currently play a 905R with a VS Proto 70X shaft. I want to change to 909, but not a single FittingWorks location I can find carries X flex shafts. My swingspeed is between 115-118 mph, and I am used to playing an X flex, low torque club…any help?
There are typically x-flex shaft options available at Titleist Advanced FittingWorks Centers, on the Titleist FittingWorks Tour Van, and during a Titleist and Cobra Factory Fitting. If none of these fitting options work for you, then have your preferred Titleist FittingWorks Partner contact his or her Titleist golf clubs sales representative to supply x-flex shafts for your fitting session.
Are most all other shafts available for the 909D2?
Available shafts are listed on our shaft listing page on FittingWorks.com.
I am in a country that does not have the luxury of Titleist FittingWorks. I am using a 907D2, 9.5 degree, with the stock VS Proto (R flex) well. I would like to upgrade to the 909D2 (preferably) or the 909D3 with the VooDoo. Which models and specs will play like my present Titleist driver.
Your recommendations are deeply appreciated.
If you are not able to meet with a fitter, we’d recommend finding a location where you can try several of the new 909 drivers in various specs against your current 907D2. A logical club to start the comparison with would be the 909D2 with 9.5° loft and the VooDoo shaft in R flex.
Hello, I am thinking of getting a 909D2 driver. My friend told me there are a number of shafts that I can choose from, in addition to the Diamana Blue 65 and Aldila VooDoo. For example, he ordered a 909D3 with an Aldila NV 75 from Titleist. I wonder where I can find such a list of shaft choices. Thank you.
Click here for a listing of stock and custom shafts available for Titleist golf clubs.
I forgot to ask, is this 1 inch custom tipping available in the 909F and 909H as well?
Shaft tipping is available for the 909F2 and 909F3 fairways. The 909H hybrids feature tapered tip shafts, so custom tipping is not available for these clubs.
Can you provide the CPM of 45 inch Titleist VooDoo Stiff and X-Stiff shafts as well as both shafts with the 1 inch tip Titleist offers on custom orders? Thank you.
Can you tell me what the differences are between the Diamana stock shaft and the Aldila VooDoo stock shaft in the 909D2? Thanks.
From our shaft listing page on FittingWorks.com:
Diamana Blueboard for Titleist
Titleist Diamana Blue 65 is a lightweight shaft that creates a medium trajectory with excellent feel and stability at impact. A versatile light-weight driver shaft that fits a broad range of players.
VooDoo for Titleist
The Titleist Aldila VooDoo features a specially designed, one piece, carbon-fiber rib system that keeps the shaft more concentric during the swing preventing ovaling for maximum energy transfer and added stability. Produces low-to-mid launch and low spin.
Be sure to check out the listing page for complete specs on both shafts.
I bought a 909D3 with a Diamana 65 Blueboard X-flex shaft. I am a 1 handicap and my swing speed is roughly 120 mph. I am switching to a Titleist VooDoo S-flex shaft. I lost 50 yards off of the tee when I got my new driver, but gained all of my distance back when I tried the same head with a VooDoo S-flex. Is this because of the weight difference of the two shafts?
Were you fit by an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner for either of those shafts? If not, we recommend consulting with one of our fitting partners for a driver fitting. The new SureFit driver fitting system will allow you to try numerous driver head and shaft options to find the combination that optimizes your driving performance.
Is the Fujikura Motore a custom shaft option? I didn’t see it listed on the website.
The Motore is not currently in our custom shaft matrix, but is being evaluated for future inclusion.
I am thinking about switching out the current VooDoo shaft in my 909D2 to a UST Proforce V2 85X. How will I be able to compensate for the swingweight change? Do you offer the weight screws to local pro shop custom fitters or can I ship it in to Titleist to get the swingweight adjusted?
Weights are not available for making swingweight changes after purchase. Please contact the Titleist Repair Department at 1-800-742-7609 with further questions about moving into a heavier shaft.
Hello, I just went through a fitting session with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner and it was determined that the best fit for me was a 909D3 but I needed a heavier shaft than the stock offerings. The fitter wanted to put me in a Mitsubishi Diamana Blueboard 73. But even the fitter was surprised to find that there was a significant upcharge for the 73 while the Mitsubishi Diamana 63 had no upcharge.
Can you explain why two shafts that list for the same price aren’t offered at the same price?
Both the Mitsubishi Diamana Blueboard 63 and 73 are custom shaft options for the 909 series drivers that carry upcharges. The Diamana Blueboard 65 for Titleist is a proprietary shaft developed by Mitsubishi exclusively as a stock option for the 909D2 and 909D3, and this shaft does not carry an upcharge.
Which weight plug do you factory install in 909D2 heads with the VooDoo shaft. I tested a 909D2 10.5° at the fitting station and the finished club felt lighter! I haven’t been able to check the fitting station swingweight, but I am fairly confident that it is heavier.
Jacky Joe-
The weight plug used in the head depends on the finished length of the club and/or the targeted swingweight of the club. The SureFit driver heads are equipped with adjustable SureFit weights to allow for testing with different length shafts. It is possible that a heavier than standard SureFit adjustable weight was affixed in the 909D2 head that you tested.
I currently play the Titleist 905T with a Grafalloy Blue stiff shaft. I am very happy with the shaft but I can’t find one with similar specs to go in the 909D3. Can you advise me on whether the 909D3 is the logical step up from the 905T, and which shaft I should have fitted in it to replicate the Grafalloy Blue stiff shaft specs even though the new 909 series do not have the thru-bore technology that the 905T does have?
Thanks in advance.
John-
Thanks for your question. We always recommend working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner to determine the optimal model and specs for your new Titleist equipment. To answer a few of your questions, the 909D3 is the most similar 909 driver to the 905T in terms of clubhead size, but not necessarily in terms of launch conditions. The 909D3 is designed to promote lower launch with low spin, while the 905T was designed to promote higher launch with low spin. Three shafts that have similar specs to the Grafalloy Blue (high flex point, low torque, lightweight) are the Grafalloy ProLaunch Red (similar flex point and weight, slightly higher torque), Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard 73 (similar flex point and torque, slightly heavier), and the Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 (similar flex point and torque, slightly heavier). Again, though, you should work with a fitter to make sure you get the right club for your game.
Do you offer the UST Proforce AXIVCore Pro Black Series for the 909D2 Driver and 909 fairway woods?
We currently offer the UST Proforce AXIVCore Blue Series 69 and 79 as custom shaft options for Titleist 909 drivers and fairways. We expect to add the Tour Black and Tour Red Series shafts to the matrix soon.
When do you think that the UST AXIVCore Tour Red/Black will be available as custom options for the 909 series, if they are going to be added at all? Thanks.
We are currently evaluating a number of new shafts as additions to our custom shaft matrix. Be sure to check our shaft listings on FittingWorks.com for the most current list of offerings.
The article mentions that custom orders for 1″ tipping is available on the stock VooDoo shaft, is this also available on the Diamana for Titleist stock shaft? Also, can you comment on how long such a custom shaft order takes for fulfillment and shipping to customer? Thanks.
Yes, custom tipping is available for all shafts in our matrix for drivers and fairways. Custom orders are typically completed and shipped within 3-5 business days if all components are in stock.
I was fitted (Titleist Van) for a 905R 10.5 degree with stiff Titleist Speeder by Fujikura. This club and shaft work well for me. How do the properties of the new Titleist VooDoo shaft compare, and is the 909D3 closest to the 905R?
Thanks.
The Titleist VooDoo is slightly lighter and with more torque than the Titleist Speeder. The 909D2, at 460cc and with mid launch and low to mid spin, is more similar to the 460cc 905R than the 909D3. We recommend consulting with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner if you’re looking to move into one of the new Titleist 909 drivers.
Obviously I’ve got a swing flaw that causes my ball flight to be significantly higher than players of similar handicap. I used to be the big dog, but I’ve suddenly become grandpa.
Is the YS-6+ shaft an option for the 909D3 driver or only the Aldila VooDoo shaft? My pro and fitter is recommending the club but I really am comfortable with the YS shaft and do not want to change. I have been playing another manufacturer’s driver since it came to market and he believes I need to get a more current lower spin driver to add distance and launch.
David-
Yes, the Graphite Design YS-6+ is a custom shaft option for the 909 series drivers. All of the available custom shaft options can be viewed on our Shaft Description page on FittingWorks.com.
In general, how much does a one degree change of loft in the 909 series drivers affect launch angle? Say from 9.5° to 8.5° on average? Using the same shaft of course!
Thanks,
Jeff Phister
Jeff-
That’s difficult to generalize as a number of other player and club specific factors affect launch angle. If you’re curious to see how it might affect your driving performance, we recommend consulting with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner with access to the new SureFit driver cart and a launch monitor.
I am a 4-5 handicap, and I have been told that I have high ball spin and low launch, and I average 290 yards. I am looking to buy the 909D2 with the VooDoo stock shaft, or the 909D3 with the same shaft. My swing speed is 100+. What is the real head difference between the D2 or D3?
The 909D2 has a full pear profile, 460cc, high performance titanium head that produces mid launch with low to mid spin. The 909D3 has a classic pear profile, deep face, 440cc, high performance titanium head that produces mid launch with low spin. More at Titleist.com.
What are the face angles of the 909D2 & 909D3?
Royce-
0.5° open on both.
I was wondering in regards to the VooDoo shaft what swing speeds are required for each flex. I am currently averaging 107-108 but am debating whether I need a stiff or x-stiff. I am unable to locate this info on Titleist or Aldila websites. Thanks!
Brad-
We recommend working with an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner on a launch monitor to help you determine the proper specs for your new Titleist 909 driver and VooDoo shaft. Your fitter will be able to consider a number of factors besides clubhead speed to optimize your driving performance.
I was fitted with an Aldila VooDoo for Titleist X-flex shaft for my new 909D3. My clubhead speed was 109-114, ball speed was 167-170, with a launch angle of 12.4 – 13.3, and a spin rate of 2660-2800. My new D3 should be in next week – I can NOT wait.
I have been thinking about upgrading my 3-wood and hybrid as well. Would you recommend that I go with the VooDoo X-flex for a 909F3 and a 909H, to have “consistency” with my woods? I have not been able to find a shop that has the VooDoo in an X-flex for demo for any club.
I am currently playing UST ProForce V2s in all of my woods (907D2, 906F2 and a 585H).
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
John,
Your swing measurements seem very similar to mine, and I am looking at Titleist drivers. Have you received yours? If so, please share your thoughts. I am waffling between the 909D2 and 909D3.
Thanks.
Our recommendation is to speak with your fitter when you go to pick up your 909D3, as he is most qualified to fit you for your long game clubs having already fit you for your driver. That said, the VooDoo for Titleist shafts were designed to compliment one another and provide consistent feel and performance from the driver to the fairway and on down to the hybrid. If you seek similar performance and feel in all of these clubs, then you should definitely consider upgrading to the 909 series with the VooDoo for Titleist shafts.
What is the tip diameter for a 907D2? My shaft broke right at the hosel so now I need to find a shaft. I know it’s either a .335″ or a .350″ but not sure which one. Also what shaft would be good to use to bring the ball flight down? My swing speed is 109, ball speed is 165, and trying to get around 2400 spin rate. Is there anything you can do to help me out?
Tip diameter for the 907D2 is .335″. Factors to consider when attempting to decrease backspin rates include a head with less loft, a shaft with a stiffer tip, a shaft with a stiffer overall flex, and a heavier shaft. For more on driver fitting, please see this article on FittingWorks.com or visit an Authorized Titleist FittingWorks Partner.